Pigs will fly first before the GB will admit otherwise than that they "aren't wrong - even when they aren't right!"
- and that "you better believe it - just because we say it is so!"
The Mayor.
PS: Correct me if I am wrong, but I haven't noticed any pigs going into orbit this last little while!
The Mayor of Turiwhate
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Forgive Us Our Trespasses
by RR inforgive us our trespasses.
governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
the governing body of jehovah's witnesses...has changed its position on numerous long-held beliefs and practices during the past few years.
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Do you still call it "the truth"?
by True North indo you find youself still calling it "the truth" even though you are an ex-jw?
for instance, in one posting i just read, the poster wrote "when i was in the truth..." .
not a big deal, perhaps, but really not such a good thing either as it's a habitual holdover from the program of mental conditioning we were subject to.
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The Mayor of Turiwhate
I call it by a number of different things - some of which are not printable! But one thing that I do not call it is "The Truth." The Mayor.
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When I Say----"JEHOVAH'S WITNESS"----What Do You Think Of???
by minimus inwhat do you associate that name with??
what's the first thing that pops in your head?
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A bad experience, that I still have nightmares about!
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The Mayor of Turiwhate
Call me a cynic if you like, (I have been called worse things!) - BUT:
- If you can count Field Service Time for changing the light bulb, then there will be plenty of volunteers.
- If you cannot count time for performing this task, then the place might be in darkness for a while!
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Remember the Written Review
by 30girl inwhat exactly was the purpose of the written review?
it was extremely helpful that the society warned you on the calendars which night you had to skip... we had those boards that they passed out so you had a good writing surface, often covered with witness grafiti like, jesus or jehovah or something biblical.
remember the little grading sheet on the back; excellent, very good, good -- was there a poor?
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The Mayor of Turiwhate
I remember when it was popularly referred to as the 'Rotten Review".
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How many 'real" friends did you ever really have in ther "truth'
by The Lone Ranger insure we got to know a lot of people, we knew a lot more people then the average person, but how many real friends did we ever have?
a friend that we could trust, that we could confine in.
i can say i had just one, bro x and even then i still had to be careful, bro x is an elder now and he tells me that im the only real friend hes ever had, he cant freely talk to anyone.
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I thought that I had a lot - until my wife's health failed.
Then, our "friends" took great pleasure in kicking us while we were down.
(For me, that is when my doubts about the whole business of the "Truth" began. Particularly as my "worldly" father had warned me at the outset that "if you ever get into trouble, it will only be this family who helps you out - nobody else." Oh boy ---- was he correct! )
Throughout all that, maybe two remained friends. One of these still to this day remains friendly - within the constraints of Watchtower Society procedure.
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Yes, they can be quite a pain in the #rs% - rather like certain other people we all know!
I have an unlisted number, but still we get the occassional call from Telemarketers.
I just wait until they either get pushy, or start asking personal questions. (And inevitably, they will do either - or both).
When that happens, I just hang up.
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How Did You Choose Your Alias?
by hambeak in.
i' curious how everyone came up with these unique alias names.
my partner gave me mine because my favorite meat is ham.. hambeak
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The Mayor of Turiwhate
Mine is a geographical pointer (within 40 km, anyway).
There is also a large measure of sarcasm in it:
- While there is a locality known as "Turiwhate", it would need a finely detailed map (inch to the mile scale) to find it.
- With just four houses spread along 5 kilometres of the main highway, the place certainly does not have a Town Council - let alone a mayor!
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A Short History of the Palestinian Israeli Crisis
by MegaDude ini enjoyed this article about how the state of israel came to be and the history behind some of the present day conflict.. full article here:.
http://www.zmag.org/shalom-meqa.htm.
teaser below:background to the israel-palestine crisisby stephen r. shalom.
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The Mayor of Turiwhate
For an official catalogue of Jewish acts of terrorism 1944 - 1948, an interesting read is found on the website www.doublestandards.org/unbunche.html
This is a report that was prepared for the then newly-appointed UN Commissioner to Palestine, Ralphe Bunche, in October 1948.
He had a direct interest in this matter - his immediate predecessor had been assassinated by Jewish terrorists on 17 September that same year!
Incidentally, monitoring of all Arab radio broadcasts during that time (1947 - 1948) recorded not one instance in which Arab leaders advised their people to flee. On the contrary, Arab leaders encouraged their people to remain where they were.
The flight of Palestine's Arab population followed after an incident that occurred in April, 1948.
Between the ninth and eleventh of April, Arab civilians ( mostly old people, women and children ) in the village of Deir Yassim were murdered by members of the Jewish terrorist organisation, Irgun.
Both sides subsequently inflated the casualty figures. It was said at the time - and believed for decades afterwards - that 254 people were killed. It is now accepted that the actual figure is between 100 and 120 people:
- The Arabs at the time inflated the figures in order to feed hatred against the Jews.
-The Jews deliberately inflated the casualty count in order to frighten the Arabs into fleeing the country. The likes of Manechim Begin (Irgun leader then, and later Israel's Prime Minister) publicly warned the Arabs to expect more Deir Yassims, if they didn't bolt for it now.
Most Arabs may well have fled without every catching sight of an "Israeli" soldier :
- In response to Deir Yassim, they made sure that they got out of the place before they did!
Palestine's Arabs fled the country in response to Jewish terror propaganda, rather than in response to orders from their own leaders. (They say that actions speak louder than words. Deir Yassim left a pretty clear message as to how much the Jews wanted the Arabs to remain!)
It could perhaps be argued which side has the "legal" claim to the land - but even that seems a bit murky.
Neither side, though, should attempt to take the Moral High Ground in this dispute - as neither side has any claim to that!
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A Short History of the Palestinian Israeli Crisis
by MegaDude ini enjoyed this article about how the state of israel came to be and the history behind some of the present day conflict.. full article here:.
http://www.zmag.org/shalom-meqa.htm.
teaser below:background to the israel-palestine crisisby stephen r. shalom.
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The Mayor of Turiwhate
An interesting comment is made in the website listed by Megadude - i.e "Background to the Israel - Palestine Crisis" by Stephen R. Shalom
Under the heading "How can terrorists be given a state?", he makes a good point:
"If peope whose independence movements use terrorism are not entitled to a state, then many current-day states would be illegitimate, not the least of them being Israel." (Italics added).
Ironically, the origins of the Israeli Defence Force were as a terrorist organisation - both against the British Administration and against the Arab population.
(One such instance out of very many was the blowing up of the King David Hotel, which housed the British Administration. Explosives were packed into milk churns, and hidden amongst the morning's milk delivery. That was always off-loaded into the hotel's basement - the ideal place from which to demolish the building.It worked ! The entire British Administration was taken out in one go).
Ironic - when it is used against you, it is called terrorism - but when you did it yourself, you were "fighting for freedom." (This applies in all such conflicts - not just the Arab / Israeli one).
Has there ever been a conflict in which one side is totally squeaky clean?
Incidentally, there is an interesting discussion of this issue from an alternative Jewish viewpoint on the website www.cactus48.com